An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast

Two NoMos dive further into the lies exposed by the CES letter with special guest, Rob Tobler.You can find more content from Rob on TikTok at @president_please_help_me.

Most people are annoyed when the Mormon missionaries come a knockin'. Erika is not most people...

All of Erika's hairs stood on end when she heard this talk by Alyssa Grenfell at the Sunstone Symposium. Abuse of children is actually baked in to the structure of the church. 
Bone chilling.Check out the podcast, "Architecture of Abuse" at https://architectureofabuse.com/ to learn more.

Mormons like to say they are "In the world but not of the world." But the very worldly messaging young missionary men receive is anything but pious, and about as basic and worldly as you can get...

Kate and Erika had a phenomenal time at the Sunstone Symposium, attending talks by Natasha Helfer, John Dehlin, and Alyssa Grenfell. In this episode, they discuss the highlights.

Guest René Steelman's son died on Christmas Day. Because she had recently left the Mormon faith, no one from the church bothered to reach out to her with comfort. Their "love" was conditional on her being a member. Which is to say, not really love at all.
Check out this phenomenal woman's podcast, "She Became Visible," here: https://www.youtube.com/@SheBecameVisible513/videos.

The CES letter that highlights all the hypocrisy, falsehoods, and discrepancies of the Mormon church broke Kate's "shelf." So she informed her bishop with confidence and in no uncertain terms that she was leaving.

Clip - Kate, Erika, and René discuss the excommunication of therapist Natasha Helfer from the Mormon church for sharing factual information with her clients. She refused to spread the harmful messaging that masturbation is a "sin," and so she got the boot.

It’s been two years since Kate left the LDS Church—and what better way to mark the occasion than with a deep dive into the infamous document that helped blow her shelf to smithereens? In this episode, Kate and Erika unpack the CES Letter: what it is, how it landed, and why it continues to shake testimonies and stir up existential crises across Mormonism.
Expect laughter, tears, a little righteous rage, and a whole lot of “Ohhh, that’s why that never made sense!” Whether you’ve read the CES Letter cover to cover or you’re just Mormon-curious, this episode is your invitation to question boldly and heal loudly.

We tried, we really tried to get through a significant chunk of and episode of Ward Radio" with Joe Rawlins on his podcast, "The Church of Korihor." But these Two No Mos just couldn't keep their mouths shut when preposterous statements were made by the show's hosts.See the full video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3orkcY7uU8&t=3551s