An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Two previously unlikely friends, an ex-Mormon (Kate) and a never-Mormon (Erika) deconstruct the quirks and contradictions of the Mormon faith with humor and empathy. And cocktails.
Two previously unlikely friends, an ex-Mormon (Kate) and a never-Mormon (Erika) deconstruct the quirks and contradictions of the Mormon faith with humor and empathy. And cocktails.
Episodes

Jul 1, 2025
Jul 1, 2025
53 min
Chris's story is heartbreaking but ultimately joyful. Growing up in the Mormon Church, she could never live authentically as her true self. But now she is OUT and thriving. And she even shares a tale about telling her bishop exactly what she thought of him!She details this all in her uplifting book, "Worthy."You can learn more about this magnificent human and her upcoming projects at chrisdavisproud.com or on TikTok @ChrisDavisProud.
Jul 1, 2025
53 min

Jun 24, 2025
Jun 24, 2025
54 min
Your Two NoMos are devoting June to PRIDE!In this episode, we chat with Sam Nieves, of the Conversion Therapy Survivor Network. He talks about his journey out of the Mormon Church after being subjected to the harmful practice of "conversion therapy," and embracing his true self. Finding community and validation through the support of the non-profit for which he works (conversionsurvivor.org/) has been key.You can also find Sam on TikTok @CantPrayMeAway.
Jun 24, 2025
54 min

Jun 18, 2025
Clip - Burn it to the Ground!
Jun 18, 2025
Jun 18, 2025
53 sec
After shooting a video in which Two NoMos Kate and Erika attempted to enter a Mormon Temple, and subsequently were met with excruciating hellfire, they were informed this was the wrong approach.
So they corrected their error. Hee hee....
Jun 18, 2025
53 sec

Jun 17, 2025
Jun 17, 2025
52 min
Two NoMos Kate and Erika had the opportunity to sit down with author Jonathan Alder at the Utah Pride Festival. He wrote the book Closeted about his experiences as a gay student at BYU. His story is heartbreaking, poignant, and ultimately joyful and healing, as he has stepped into his true self, and is living authentically and thriving!His book is available at https://www.amazon.com/Closeted-Life-Gay-Student-Memoir-ebook/dp/B0B3JFGRGB.
Jun 17, 2025
52 min

Jun 10, 2025
Jun 10, 2025
48 min
Two NoMos go LIVE for the first time at the Utah PRIDE Festival! It's a little loud, it's a little messy, it's a lot colorful, but so is life. Happy PRIDE, Everyone!
Kate and Erika were at the Conversion Therapy Survivor Network booth, raising funds for this important and impactful organization.If you are looking for this type of support, or you would like to support the wonderful work this organization is doing, please visit: conversionsurvivor.org/.
Jun 10, 2025
48 min

Jun 9, 2025
Clip - Utah PRIDE Was Full of LOVE!
Jun 9, 2025
Jun 9, 2025
6 sec
Two NoMos had too much fun at Pride With Gay Jesus!
Jun 9, 2025
6 sec

Jun 6, 2025
Clip - Transphobia in the Mormon Church
Jun 6, 2025
Jun 6, 2025
44 sec
The Mormon church humiliates trans folks who dare to attend services by demanding that they be escorted to use the restroom, but is perfectly fine with sending children in to be alone with bishops who ask them VERY intimate questions.
MAKE IT MAKE SENSE....
Jun 6, 2025
44 sec

Jun 5, 2025
Clip - Two NoMos Walk Into a Pride Festival!
Jun 5, 2025
Jun 5, 2025
31 sec
Two NoMos had a blast at Daybreak Pride! We'll be celebrating Pride all throughout the month of June.
Happy Pride to everyone!!!!
Jun 5, 2025
31 sec

Jun 3, 2025
Jun 3, 2025
54 min
What better way to celebrate PRIDE than to hang with Gay Jesus (aka Ryan Barlow)?He shares his evolution from devout member of the Mormon church, to beacon of hope, love, and support for the LGBTQ community as rainbow, sparkly Jesus.
Jun 3, 2025
54 min

Jun 2, 2025
Clip - (Gay) Jesus Christ!
Jun 2, 2025
Jun 2, 2025
59 sec
To open season two of our podcast, we had a very special, vey bedazzled, sparkly guest. It was magical!
Jun 2, 2025
59 sec







